Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 15, 2010 1:04:20 GMT -5
You winning HOH is irrelevant, doesn't matter who you would have taken.
Nakomis won more competitions, yeah but who cares? Amy obviously threw every single competition to remain weak and then when she needed to win a competition she comes out of no where and beats the 2 guys by a hour in the most important veto of the game.
Amy survived countless evictions, getting the votes to stay each time. In the most important eviction of all, I stressed so much that Amy has the jury votes but did no one give a shit? or did Amy just get to them and talk them out of it?
James, what are you talking about made more bigger moves? I'd like to take some credit for pulling Nakomis into our side. I made a final 2 with Nakomis early on and we were playing both sides. I really can't see any big move that Nakomis made in this game and I was the closest one to her I think.
Amy proved us all wrong, she took out the huge threats, she talked her way out of evictions. She put on the act that she sucks at competitions, then like I said earlier she comes out and wins the final veto in a landslide. I don't see Nakomis taking out any big threats, I think Amy is the one who did it.
examples: Amy took out Sarah, myself, Jee pretty much by herself. Then she takes out Erika and Janelle by getting the votes to stay.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 7:16:20 GMT -5
nathan, you're giving amy wayyyyy too much credit for winning that veto competition. i think that james and jee just genuinely sucked at it. her time wasn't that impressive.
i dont know. i think a lot of amy's game was luck. i can tell you that she doesn't do much of the strategizing and people are usually the ones who have to come her, initiate them and doesn't contribute much to it. you could be right about things, but we'll see. to be honest, i won't be surprised if she herself doesn't even really know how she got here.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 7:34:14 GMT -5
i didn't take anything personal james.. in fact, my problems with voting for you are due to the fact that you burning so many bridges equated a very bad decision in winning the game. i would never NOT vote for someone for voting me out, but being somewhat of an ass about it shows that the jury vote doesn't matter.
for amy's game.. the most critical thing that happened for her probably is that jean jordan was backdoored so early on, which had nothing to do with her. all her other "moves" were of little importance to her game. Nakomis choosing her for f2 is completely stupid, so i guess we can peg her F2 standing to other people's stupidities with little to no help of her own. butttttttttttttt, we shall see with JQ because if what you say is true Nate, then ill be VERY surprised. i highly doubt it though.
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Post by Erika Landin on Mar 15, 2010 10:31:15 GMT -5
This just proves what a tard Naky is. Now let's all just vote for the smart person, kay?
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Post by James Rhine on Mar 15, 2010 11:35:54 GMT -5
I guess we'll have to see what kind of answers they give. My mind isn't 100% made up, but I'm leaning one way for now. And Nathan, I was only saying that if I had won HOH, I'd have taken Nak to the end because I think her game was better, and I wouldn't have minded losing to her. I know it's not relevant. And to Sarah, yes I was a bit of an ass about your eviction. I didn't let you try to defend yourself because I knew at that point how close you and Nathan were. But it doesn't matter now, we're all here in jury. And to Erika, hey babe!
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 12:49:35 GMT -5
This just proves what a tard Naky is. Now let's all just vote for the smart person, kay? or maybe it proves she feels confideent enough about her game, that it doesn't matter :-P
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Post by Erika Landin on Mar 15, 2010 13:03:23 GMT -5
Puh-lease.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 13:10:39 GMT -5
it's a question someone can ask her ;D but yeah, obviously it wasn't the smartest decision, lol... but i wouldn't base her entire gameplay on the fact that she chose wrong for F2. overall, she played better.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 13:18:05 GMT -5
btw nathan, amy did NOT throw competitions. she tried to win them and she kept losing them.
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Post by Erika Landin on Mar 15, 2010 14:09:40 GMT -5
it's a question someone can ask her ;D but yeah, obviously it wasn't the smartest decision, lol... but i wouldn't base her entire gameplay on the fact that she chose wrong for F2. overall, she played better. Nope.
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Post by KC on Mar 15, 2010 14:41:16 GMT -5
Good time to mention this:
Once your vote is locked, please do not discuss even if it is obvious. I don't care if you talk now about who you are voting since it could change. But once you make up your mind, cease debating.
Also everyone is required to post a statement and/or question. Doesn't matter if you know what you're doing or not, you must participate. But hold off that until I give the go ahead in the finale section.
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Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 15, 2010 19:34:54 GMT -5
btw nathan, amy did NOT throw competitions. she tried to win them and she kept losing them. If she didn't throw the picture comp, I will shave my head. Although when you do throw competitions, you can't do that bad so you might have a point.. I almost won 2 hoh's by throwing them.
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Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 15, 2010 19:35:24 GMT -5
This just proves what a tard Naky is. Now let's all just vote for the smart person, kay? Your biased... shut your mouth.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 19:36:39 GMT -5
and BTW, i knew amy didn't throw any competitions. she basically confirmed it from her opening statement. she played a good social game and i am ALL for it, but so did Nak... so i can't say she deserves to win solely on that. With her answers to my questions, i will know if she actually used her social game to do any actual damage or just as a means to remain off the target lists.
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Sarah
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Post by Sarah on Mar 15, 2010 23:22:45 GMT -5
just for the record, i dont really care about the competitions nak won. my question was to prove that amy didn't fail at competitions as a strategy [because that would be a really good move] but that she failed at them because she couldn't succeed. nak could have won ZERO competitions and it wouldn't have made a difference. i have issues with people voting for someone just on the sole fact that they won more competitions. comps don't mean much to me. and as someone who usually gets screwed over for the fact that i tend to not do AS well as others in competitions and get to the end solely on my social game, i can completely appreciate playing the game without the ability to win a gazillion competitions. The reason I think Nak played a better game is because i think she got involved in far more things than Amy did. She played critical roles in many evictions that actually BENEFITED her and DESPITE the fact that she was seen as a threat, she still managed to make final 2, which i find more impressive than sort of coasting to f2 because you aren't a threat.
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