Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 17, 2010 4:07:56 GMT -5
I dunno if it's just me or what but all I have read is a bunch of fluff, sugar coating bullshit that doesn't support anything that's been actually done in this game. I was trying to wait and see if some of my questions were answered, but I'm going to just get this started as I'm unaware of who I'm voting for as of now. Nakky When you and Sarah were nominated together, I potentially screwed my whole game over by not knocking your number out. I thought we were really solid, and then out of no where your trust with me went from like 90-0. If you let me win that veto, I would have saved you 100% and we both would have been safe. Instead I was like inches away from James backdooring me. Why didn't you let me win that veto, and did Justin tell you some information about who I was? Amy Yeah you got to the final 2 by doing the exact opposite of what the correct strategical moves would have been. That's not the point, you risked getting 3rd place for me leaving at final 5 because I'm a jury threat which is the biggest joke in this entire game. Especially when you were the #1 jury threat out of anyone, and it blows my mind how the other 3 people did not see it. That is where you got lucky to make the finals, the last 3 rounds you didn't make any strategical move. You simply got lucky to have 2 guys, a girl and a pizza place drag you to the finals because they're oblivious to the obvious of where the jury is at. I don't care if you won a veto, you are the luckiest person alive or you were just in the final 4 with 3 of the stupidest people alive.... take your pick If you got lucky during the last 3 rounds, and in between the jury stage you were seen as a zero threat, so that's 3 more rounds where you stayed over someone else just for the fact of being weak. Where's the game play, the strategy taken to get you further in the game? Were you really playing the JordanBB11 strategy which in my eyes is non existent. To the both of you: Again I'm seeing a lot of I did this, I did that without any examples or any specific things on what you did in the game. I don't want to hear about anything before the final 9, I know what went on there and I don't care what you did before that. From the final 9 stage to the end of the game. Go week by week, and give me a brief description on what you did that week to keep yourself safe and anything else that you did that would impress me. I don't want a novel, a couple sentences for each week will do. Don't sugar coat anything, simply get to the point. One last thing...
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Post by Nakomis * on Mar 17, 2010 17:53:10 GMT -5
Why didn't you let me win that veto, and did Justin tell you some information about who I was?
I had ever intention of letting you win that veto, but while we we're discussing it, Amy im'd me and was like what is taking you sooooo long to do this, she was basically like just do it, use it on yourself, don't trust him, use it, use it, use it, he isn't who he says he is, yadda yadda yadda.. so then I was like ahhh what? And I realized, you weren't Matt *face palm* .. soo I didn't know what the fuck was on the go, and I decided to win it myself and use it myself. I understand now that you had to play as an alias, hello, look at your track record in these games, but when she was telling me all this I was like woaaaaah, hold the phone.. and really, my trust did go down a lot for you at that point, but its all good now, you had to do what you had to do, so be it..
Justin didn't have any clue who you we're, it was Amy who told me.
From the final 9 stage to the end of the game. Go week by week, and give me a brief description on what you did that week to keep yourself safe and anything else that you did that would impress me. I don't want a novel, a couple sentences for each week will do. Don't sugar coat anything, simply get to the point.
Okay, lets do it up:
Justin's eviction week
Roddy won HoH, I was really close with Roddy, so I tried to guide him into putting up two people that I wasn't close to, he nom'd Erika & Dani which was perfect, I didn't play in veto, so nothing fun there, then you won veto, and you wanted to mess with Roddy so you used it, which pissed me the fuck off because we were all in trouble again, with the exception of you, so I tried to get him to nominate someone else who wasn't in my alliance, but he nom'd Justin, and Justin left, which was retarded.
Roddy's Eviction Week:
Well, this was pretty much you're week of power, James wins HoH, nominates you, I was livid, but you told me it was all good, so that was fine. You win Veto and don't save yourself, I almost go through my computer screen ready to kill you, most of my strategy that week was between you and I, I was retardedly trying to figure out a way you would 100% stay in the game, little did I know you have that power, and bam, I wake up, Roddy & Erika are on the block and then you explain to me.. I really did try to get Erika out that week, but everyone was so for Roddy that it was a lost cause, and he left.
Janelle's eviction week
I won HoH, and was soo gunning to get Amy out, it was ridiculous..you and I fought over my nominations, but I still went with my gut feeling and that was nom'ing two of them. Veto came and went, and these two we're still on the block, and by this point, I switched my mind from Amy leaving to Janelle leaving, why? She was stronger then Amy, you were to close to her and the rest of our alliance wanted her out, so I got the votes and got her out.
Danielle's eviction week
Jee wins HoH, I felt as safe as I could. But then he says he wants Danielle out.. so I basically tried and I tried and I tried, along with you, to get him to nominate people who were threats and that were coming after our alliance, clearly didn't work, I was pissed off, had I won veto I would have saved Danielle, just to get a threat out of the house.. but I didnt. Noms stayed the same, and no one would vote out Amy over Danielle, so she left.
Sarah's evcition week
Well, Sarah & I we're nom'd, main goal, staying in the godamn house. Veto came, it was down to you and I, I opted not to give it to you because of some information that Amy gave me (see above) so I saved my ass, and then had to choose between two of allie, I choose Sarah. She ends up leaving. Once again, another brilliant week.
Erika's evcition week
You win HOH, we talk a lot about noms, I tell you who I want obviously, Im sure it was two of them or one of the two.. They go up. Jee wins veto.. they stay the same We all wanted Erika gone, so she left.
Nathan's eviction Week
Jee wins, we think we are golden, bam we are on the block with our heads spinning. He told me him nominated me next to you because I wouldn't vote you out.. smart enough move. We fail in veto, which means now one of us are auto going home. I asked James & Amy to keep me in the game, I told them I would "remember it" and I think this is around the time I made a f2 with Amy because I knew once you left and Jee nom'd me I had no one left in the game, they kept me, and you left.
Jee's Eviction Week
I won HoH, I knew I made it to F3. I nomiated Jee & James because honestly, nom's srsly didn't matter , all that mattered this round was veto, BUTTT, I wanted Amy to know that I was still on her side, I think it would have pissed her off if I nom'd her.. so, while waiting for veto, I didn't really care who won, all these people had it out for me, at one point or another, and i know had one of them won, I would be on the block, so I didn't give a shit at all who left that week. Amy won veto, nom's stayed the same.. she went back and forth for hoursssss on who to evict, finally it was Jee.
Jame's eviction week
Once again, I really had no idea what these two would have done had they won.. soo, main goal for me was to win.. but if I didn't, I wanted to make sure I still had a shot of getting to the end.. so I had the F2 deal with Amy, and with James, I cant really recall if I actually came out and said lets have a final 2, but when he made jokes about it, i would answer, "for sure" or "totally" just so he would keep me in mind. James also thought that Amy didn't deserve to be in the F2, so I played that aspect to him to. Well, I ended up winnning had to make a choice. Obviously, a lot of you disagree with it, but its all good. I didn't think I could beat either one of them to be honest, I know I played a better game then them both, but I guess people just don't look at it that way. In the end, I chose Amy because I thought it would be funny to see her and I in the end of a game together.
So to sum all this shit up, I tried every week, I made sure my two cents were in there, some times people listened, other times they didn't, and when the crazy shit was going down I usually managed to win something to save my ass...
These are probably longer then you wanted.. opps.. its hard to recall exactly what I done when I'm on my sisters computer and don't have my chat logs, but yeah, hope this is what you wanted, if not, let me know..
Thanks Nate.
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Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 17, 2010 18:47:36 GMT -5
That's what I wanted. I'm still not sure if you trust me that I would have saved you with the veto, lol. If you choose to read that week in my diary room you will find out I was going to save you.
brings up another question for you Amy.
Why in hell did you tell Nakomis who I was?
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Post by Amy on Mar 19, 2010 0:17:02 GMT -5
Hi Nathan! Okay, ready for this? I have a feeling this is going to take awhile for me to type. I know everyone thinks I just got by on luck and that I was weak, blah blah blah blah blah. This is seriously all stuff I've heard before. People so often underestimate me that I do get to the final two in a lot of games. It's always the same kind of questions. Just like this one that I get. Well, as for my strategy/game play/ and so on, I obviously wanted to play the game socially, which is like the best strategy to play if you know me. I’m not this awesome challenge whore that always wins everything. I very seldom win at challenges truthfully. I like to stick with what I’m best at doing, which is talking. I pretty much relied on it fully knowing that I needed my connections in the game to get me by from round to round. I never actually felt 100% safe, but I guess it’s just something about the risk that makes the game more fun. Anyways, I planned on talking to everyone in the game and actually keeping myself an alias, which didn’t last long at all because I have a big mouth. I wanted to find a group of people that I knew I could trust and work with them, but in the background always have someone else that I would secretly be a lot closer too. That person was supposed to be Justin. This part of my strategy only worked out for a total of like four weeks, which totally pissed me off when it came to an end. Anyways, during that time Justin and I were on completely different sides of the game, so I knew who was playing both sides. All the sides of the game seemed to be pretty obvious. Like I said, soon after Justin got voted out, which messed up my final two, at this time I had other people I felt close and secure too like Erika. Erika seemed like a loner in the game and someone I would totally get along with. Okay, actually I knew for a fact I’d get along with her. Every round I’d plot and talk to her about what moves with should make and when we should make them. Anyways, long story short, after Erika was voted out I didn’t really know what to do. I knew I was playing for myself and I wouldn’t really be able to trust anyone. I think I jumped around a lot at the end of the game, but I was making the moves I felt were right for me. I was always thinking of one person before I thought of anyone else. That was me. Anyways, you can say my strategy was stupid and I didn’t win all these wonderful challenges, but I did a lot more than win challenges, I knew what was going on in the game at almost all times. I think that was a lot more valuable than winning any challenge was at all. Plus, even when I was nominated, which was five different times in this game, I never got evicted and all of you people kept me around. It just seems kind of crazy to me, to let me stick around all this time for no good reason at all. You don't have to win challenges to be a good player. HOH and veto competitions change week to week, and they can be unpredictable. It's a lot smarter to rely on your social strategy rather than rely on winning competitions. I found a way to keep me safe throughout the game, and I didn't need to win competitions. That doesn't make me a weak player; it makes me a smart one As for week to week play, here is what happened in my book: Justin’s Eviction: This week was pure hell if you ask me. Roddy was HoH and I wasn’t really that close that I was going to get people I wanted nominated. He ended up putting up Erika and Danielle, which I thought were terrible nominations. Anyone who nominated Danielle, I thought was just looking for an easy way out. This is the week the big plan to backdoor Nathan went down and yes, everyone I’m the person who told him about it. He was one of my closest allies at the time and I felt it was necessary he knew what was going to happen. I figured he should know he needed to work extra hard to get POV, which he did. He took down Erika, which made me worlds of happy. The only bad news is that Justin went up. Believe me, I tried to tell people that Justin wasn’t a threat and that he didn’t need to leave the game, but no one listened really. It ranks up there with one of the worst moments in the game. Roddy’s Eviction: This week was a cluster fuck, but turned out alright. Basically, someone told James I was the one running back to Nathan and giving him all this information. James told me it was Janelle who told him all this stuff, but I don’t know if I believe that still to this day. That was the moment James knew he was going to nominate Nathan and myself. I was totally freaked out by the thought of going up against Nathan because I knew I’d go home. I didn’t understand a lot of things this week like why Nathan wanted to be put up on the block and how things played out, but it turns out Nathan had the Coup D’etat. This was probably one of the more happy moments in the game. Janelle’s Eviction: This week Nakomis won HoH, which of course wasn’t good for me at the time. We were still against each other. I figured I was getting nominated, but I didn’t realize it was going to be against Janelle. Of course, neither of us won POV leaving both of us on the block. This is the week I realized how close Sarah and Nakomis were because Sarah ended up talking Nakomis out of making me her target for the week. As luck goes, even though we both tried hard for POV, Janelle ended up leaving the house. This is also the week where I started to question Sarah in my head about what she was doing even though I knew her plan was for Janelle to leave. I didn’t really campaign this round just because it was Janelle and I had a feeling I was staying already. Janelle left because she was a threat in the game over me. Danielle’s Eviction: Another joyful week of being on the block, as Jee is the HoH in charge. It was just ridiculous he even nominated me. I don’t care if he didn’t have any intentions of me going home the combination of us both being up just didn’t make sense to me. Anyways, the nominations stayed the same and POV wasn’t used again. I was really nervous this week because I didn’t trust half the people still left in the game, but it ended up being okay. This is the round where I really lost a lot of trust for everyone, but Erika. Things were just so much harder. Erika and I started talking about targeting threats in the game and this might have happened IF we were good at challenges. Haha. Sarah’s Eviction:This week James won HoH and I had started talking to him. Janelle had previously told us when she left she wanted us to work together. It was like her last dying wish or something. Lol. But we both wanted to honor it. He ended up nominating Sarah and Nakomis because of the rumor that they had a final two going on. Everyone seemed to be so caught up into it. At the POV, it came down between Nakomis and Nathan getting the POV. That is when I completely begged Nakomis to take POV for herself, I know Nakomis isn’t my favorite in games all the time, but number one I didn’t want her getting screwed and number two I thought it might gain me a little trust from her. She took POV and Jee went up. I ended up lying about voting out Jee and voting out Sarah. This all ended really badly because I had tried to cover everything up, but somehow things got messed up. Sarah left. This was the round that I promised Jee, a final two, and swear on my life I’d honor what I said. Erika’s Eviction:This week Nathan won HoH, which was completely bad for me, so I figured I was already on the block. Nathan said it was a last minute choice, but it certainly didn’t feel that way. Or maybe I was just really paranoid about everything. I wasn’t happy about the nomination, but there wasn’t much I could do at all about anything. Of course, neither of us won POV, even though I’m pretty sure we were very close. Nothing seemed to fall into place this week and everything was falling apart. The only good thing was I felt like I had everyone in the game on my side. Saddest moment ever, Erika leaves the game. Nathan’s Eviction:This week Jee won HoH, and everyone had been talking about getting out Nathan. Everyone knew he was a huge threat in the game. James kind of talked to both Jee and me about arranging something. I figured he had talked to Nakomis too, but it doesn’t look like it from what Nokomis said. Jee won POV and the nominations stayed the same. Nakomis and I made a final two. Nathan and I got into a huge fight and this week sucked. Jee’s Eviction:This week Nakomis won HoH and since we had previous made a final two I thought I was golden to be safe this round, but the truth is she almost nominated me because of the post Nathan had made during this week. She didn’t want people to think we had a final two, but we found away to go around it and everything was just fine. No one has any idea how hard I studied for POV. Yes, I studied. Lol. I can’t remember challenge stuff like everyone else. Anyways, I got POV. That next day, I thought about it a lot and who I was going to vote out. I really weighed my options and thought about what was best for me. I finally decided that voting Jee out would be the best thing for me in the game. James’s Eviction:This week was all up to Nakomis. I basically just told her I really wanted final two and that I thought I deserved to be next to her in the final two. We talked about how we thought votes would go and she asked me several questions to confirm my feeling s about certain things. At the end she voting out James and not me. Okay, this is most of what happened during the week. If it didn’t seem like I did a lot during some of the evictions parts I posted it was because I was talking to people and influencing. I was asking questions and trying to understand who the person was. I also, always made the best moves for me and not for anyone else. If I thought the move would get me farther ahead in the game I went with it. The last couple rounds where it felt like I was jumping around a little bit, it was because I was looking at people’s characters and figuring out who I thought was telling the truth. Overall, this is what I felt like happened every eviction. Thanks for this question. If you have any more questions, go ahead and ask them. Thank you.
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Nathan
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Post by Nathan on Mar 19, 2010 0:38:05 GMT -5
Why in hell did you tell Nakomis who I was?
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Post by Amy on Mar 19, 2010 0:41:53 GMT -5
Real quick, just to answer the last one, she already knew you weren't who you said you were. It wasn't like she didn't know you weren't real/ an alias anyways. I mean she asked about you and I felt like it was pointless to lie. I lied to so many other people about who you were, but at that point in the game, you had already nominated me and everything wasn't looking good, so I just confirmed you were an alias. Later on in the game, after you were gone, I exampled to her who you were because I felt like she deserved to know.
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